it started with bill bradley and jack kemp and took a while to bubble to the surface. they started to talk about major tax reform in 1982 and 1983 and it was not enacted until 1986. we are further down the starting point than usual because you have the chairman of the clore -- core committee and widen, the chairman of finance who put forward his proposal so the opportunity is there. it should be taken. and it requires quite honestly presidential leadership and if president obama wants to have a legacy, reforming the tax laws may be a good one. the third issue of what secretary hagel proposed in defense spend, he didn't just propose cutting defense spending significantly. level funding it. what he proposed was thinking about it in terms in which -- which it hasn't been thought about since the end of the cold war, which is what are the threats and how do you respond