the discussion, we had our discussion, and christopher hitchens, who many of you probably know about, then was working for us, he is a british guy who later became more conservative and left. but he's to wear white suits through the office, and christopher said, i don't think this is an act of sex, i think this is an act of rape. and i think that henry kissinger is forcing himself on this woman. -- the young woman who it you had objected say, i do not agree with you, if you look at her hand on the mattress, it looks to me like the grip of passion. and christopher leaned over to ,he young woman, gripped her and said trust me, my dear, it is not the grip of passion. [laughter] >> integrating meshach sent. so we had the discussion and then i invited david to come back and to have the discussion with the staff, itself. and we went through it a few