irish-american voters think. brian: you quote a man named lewis murray, a proud irish-american. who is he? caitriona: i met him at the convention. he is a guy whose heritage is irish and american. he was not born in ireland himself, but he has plenty of family there and he goes back to visit. he was all in for donald trump and on the local organizing committee and all of that. he is a case study of irish-americans who were in favor of this wider republican message of smaller government, lower taxation, more conservative family viewpoints. brian: in the trial, they were described as homegrown terrorists who came to hate the united states. who are you talking about? caitriona: the tsarnaev brothers. that was another story about