proceedings. there's a backlog in the united states. the trump administration has discouraged people being released while awaiting their proceedings. some of these asylum-seekers have broken no laws and are trying to claim refuge in the united states. these are the different populations we have to be careful about who we are referring to. host: john from pennsylvania, republican line. our first call for molly o'toole of "the los angeles times." caller: california spends over $20 billion to take care of illegals. texas bends over $10 billion to take care of illegals. and you people, the democrats and liberals, are worried about $5.7 billion for a wall? that doesn't make sense. host: if someone gets a detention bed, what services are they entitled to? guest: there are laws in the united states about obligations