better here. my ancestry on my mother side came in the 1740's. fortunately, he was an indentured servant, but fortunately he was white because everyone else in annapolis was african, real africans at that point. and he got away. do note people i talk to have roots like that. my webster roots go back to the 17th century. host: so what are you saying, that there should not be immigration now? caller: we have got to abolish the immigration law that we have. i think it is against any principle that the united states was founded on. host: sarah pierce, any thoughts? guest: sure. i hardly disagree -- i disagree with evan. i think the united states as a nation of immigrants, and the