the money is printed. rand paul was right when he said we should use the gold standard. we don't. that is why we do not owe anybody. donald trump should have called bankruptcy. nothing would have happened, because we don't owe nobody. we don't -- we owe china $1 trillion, that is it. host: ok, dorothy. thank you. guest: the vast majority of the money we owe people is actually owed to the public, whether that is china, another foreign country, domestic investors, or anybody else. i own some u.s. securities. a lot of average americans, in their retirement accounts are in their per folio's, own some type of u.s. trade. if it was not paid but, it would cause quite a bit of economic destruction. consequences for not only