thousands of emails accounts compromised. mike baker with us. mike is former cia covert operator. joins us now. do you know, if you were with the cia, you worked undercover, do you think or do you know whether or not we responded or retaliated in any way against these people who hacked us? >> well, yeah, i mean it would be naive to think we don't have our own offensives capabilities and efforts. that doesn't make what the russians or chinese or state-sponsored or individual hackers do okay. because their motivations and what they're after is different than the way that we act. but, at the same time, yes, i mean we're very good. in fact i would argue we're the best at the business. stuart: do you know this? i mean that is important. not just speculation? you know this, if we wanted to have a go at them via their computing systems we could do it? you know that? >> yeah. we have the best people in the business frankly, that's what i'm saying. without going into the weeds and talking...