said if i would have done one of those things, i would be in prison now. that's somebody from a federal agency. ashley: let me bring in an attorney, on the phone with us now, former u.s. attorney matthew whitaker because matthew brings up a good point. we heard the case laid out very meticulously by james comey, what was your take and what was your take on his conclusion? will go to has been this is a typical lawyer answer but it all depends on what's standard. the felony requires intentional or gross negligence, the misdemeanor requires knowingly, and comey laid out that it was extremely careless and that, you know -- for me, i'm trying to figure out what standard extremely careless. that feels like gross negligence. . ashley: yes. >> that was -- you did not act as a reasonable person would act. she said she knew that this was classified as top secret access. she should have known or any reason person knew that they should not have done this on a unclassified system and then they...