connell: right. >> one plus one in this case might equal maybe two, maybe slightly less than two but not much better. connell: it is very strange. you're right he recused himself and so did other keyboard members. they talk about $150 million in cost savings and synergies they put in the first year but to jim's point, if you're tesla and tesla shareholder or work for the company or you're a customer, whatever the case may be, if tesla is your interest how does this make sense for you? >> for a lot of people tesla is not just an interest but a religion. connell: right. >> so you're not going to sell tesla if you're a fanatic. one really quick, one pro about owning tesla is that you could easily make the comparison to amazon, losing money, losing money, losing money. look at jeff bezos, he is third richest guy in the world. amazon making money hand over fist. connell: is that the comparison you're making. >> no, absolutely not. that is what tesla fanatic would say.