you say that this could be a false flag operation. that it shouldn't be a foregone conclusion that this is the russians. first of all, did i say it right? and do you agree with that? and how come? >> well, you said it as well right, melissa. and here's why i agree. the fact is that because the intelligence agency would not come up on capitol hill and testify in front of both the senate and the house intel committees tells me something that they're holding back. in addition, i think that mr. trump has a lot of sources with general flynn and general kelly from the pentagon and inside the bureaucracy that are feeding information that are saying do not believe this. this is a false flag operation. and so i think that trump gets it and that the white house narrative is in the wrong direction. melissa: although, i mean, the details who exactly is behind this seems to sort of take the focus away from what is the