including several of your natural allies to make common cause against you, it could begin to be a bit of a problem. germany and most of the europeans remain very dependent on the united states. not only for prosperity, but for their security. i don't think we ought to ignore it either. this is a bit of a canary in the coal mine in particularly when you've got a country like china in play that really is an adversary of the united states than it means displays american leadership in the world, we have to pay some attention to the shorts of signals. neil: you mentioned that in our poll adversaries are the president saying his upcoming meeting with vladimir putin on monday. it may be the easiest of them all. even he was surprised by that. but he was right about that. i am wondering what does that portend? what do you think?

what do you think? >> i'm one of those establishment guys that is a bit nervous about it going into a meeting with our major liberal democratic capitalist allies, coming out of that with very much tension and conflict in going into a meeting with a guy who really has sustained an attack on american interests for much of the past decade. and to have that be all smiles, i am not sure that as a signal we want to be sending to the world. neil: i would be curious in your commission, talking about be careful, america with a few allies you do have. i am paraphrasing here. then usually smug dismissive content that the president has a lot of these european leaders who are no fans of his, who were very dismissive of his calls. on the technical aspect of them ponying up some dough are not

that is unique, quite unique in the modern world than it has brought us more than 70 years of peace and prosperity on a continent in europe that for centuries before that was just a wellspring of bloody violence throughout the world and particularly in europe costing the lives of millions. i think the president has to value the alliance and get push it forward to the kinds of reforms we need to see that actually advance american interests. it's a difficult line to walk. neil: just open up the wallet of the word. that would be the president's push to make sure that they do fork over more. we are pained 70% plus of that bill and the president saying that it's going to talk. it is what he says and how he says it into me target that will decide everything. after this. nah. not gonna happen.

tariffs and it will distract the world order. the fact they talk to each other, the chinese talking about the european members to cobble together their own bills. they been at the united states could be a sign of things to come. vice president dick cheney, good to have you. i suspect the first of more such moves. >> on one hand, and i don't think we have to find anything particular unusual about the largest economies in the world doing business together. that in itself isn't threatening to the united states. far more worrisome is when they start doing that with the explicit objective of trying to thwart american power and policies. neil: that was clearly the case. i didn't read it any other way, did you? >> those messages are beginning to be heard. the united states needs to take some heat. when your policies start pushing some of the most powerful countries on the planet, including several of your natural allies to make common

on the technical aspect of them ponying up some dough are not paying their fair share, he's right. they are used to diplomatic niceties and doing those in private. perhaps the president has made that and what predecessors have done come to see that they didn't get much of a better result, so he is putting it all out there and they don't like that. i'm wondering where all this goes. >> well, we can only hope. i think the president has just got to find the sweet spot here between really pressing the allies to do the kind of word and sharing that the shirt is for so much of the last half-century and yet maintaining the crown jewel of american national security policy, which is the fact that unlike our major competitors in russia and china, we really do have a network of alliances and allies that share our interests and share our values. that is unique, quite unique in the modern world than it has