pennsylvania as well. so liz, i think, you know, you've been on top of this issue and i think, many of us are looking at it saying it seems like an uphill battle but it is gaining some momentum. elizabeth: in arizona i think joe biden's lead is 0.7. if it slips below 0.5, there will be a recount in arizona. so we've seen, we've been doing the math and talking to, and looking at the vote count. the trump team would have to overturn 275,000 votes over spread across pennsylvania and where the counts are going on. that would effectively finding 75,000, each of those votes are individually fraudulent, 57,000 dead people. that is the issue. that is at stake? is that how you see it? >> yeah it is. they have to see something, for example, you heard the story about individuals filling out ballots and being observed and