that's right for you today. david: firefighter used about 6 thousand gallons of water to put out the tesla fire, average american family uses 300 thousand gallons of water in a day. joining us now energy experts elex epstein. s extra costs that have never been factored in to transition to world without fossil fuels never seem to end, do they? >> no, i think what we're seeing is that whole green energy movement is a scam. it pretends we'll move rapidly to these things and do everything necessary, it will be smooth. one example we have the bidbiden administration saying no to mining in minnesota. and green energy agenda involves more than doubling more than 10 types of mining. that never happened in economic industry. history in one industry. not a serious movement that is trying to increase energy it is looks for a justification to oppose fossil fuels. david: it will cut off the economy. we're going to have to mine more for all of stuff that now the interior department is locking up...

>> no, i think what we're seeing is that whole green energy movement is a scam. it pretends we'll move rapidly to these things and do everything necessary, it will be smooth. one example we have the bidbiden administration saying no to mining in minnesota. and green energy agenda involves more than doubling more than 10 types of mining. that never happened in economic industry.