of forbes inc., steve forbes. >> good morning, gretchen, how are you? >> very fine. you said a long time ago you were supporting rick perry. you've known him for 10 years and you were impressed with his tort reform in texas but why are you keeping with him when a lot of people say hey, you're a business guy, too, you should be for mitt romney. >> well, i think that rick perry has shown not only does he have good ideas like the flat tax, like regulatory reform, but he's demonstrated in texas he knows how to create an environment for job creation starting with the tort reform keeping bad taxes away and the like. so he's demonstrated he can perform in the public square. it's one thing to have an idea. quite another to be able to carry through an idea. and while he's had a rough patch so far, i think south carolina is going to be wide open after this mish mash in new hampshire and has a chance to get back in the fray again. >> uh-huh. what is it about mitt romney that he fails to take on...