getting democrats on board would yell about the insurance industry and go back in and huddle with them. one would suppose we are now in a continual version of this as the implementation of the law struggles. so the president is trying to assure partners in the insurance industry that he wants the policies still destroyed and we can also assume that he's reassuring liberal supporters that the fix is meant not to work and that the policies will be destroyed. >> we talked about it with one of the architects of obama care who explained to us how if you keep people out of the exchanges and let them stay on their existing plans it could potentially be the beginning of of the death spiral where the exchanges only have the most unhealthy people and the whole law could collapse because the exchanges won't work if they have only un healthy older people. i understand why the president may have said my fix, forget that. what about the 5 million people who now have no insurance? so basically if...