premiums thing we have to do as government is national security and military. so your strategy, kennedy, i agree with it, i know where you're coming from if they would have confidence in our president i agree where it is coming from, the problem that also leads to defeat. not only tie president obama's hands but tie hands of military generals. disconnect, harris you're right. the president doesn't want to send american ground forces but not doing what he needs to be done give confidence to the moderate sunni states like iraq like turkey, that they will put boots on ground. >> i think we need to get over this fantasy we'll let iraqis fight isis, syrians fight isis. we spent billions of dollars -- >> kurds are doing it. >> to train 190,000 iraqi forces ran away with their hands up and let the cities go to isis after we trained them. we shouldn't train them. if we stop isis we get the job done ourselves and leave. >> american boots on the ground, nothing else? >> absolutely.