shooting after it was absolutely clear that nadal hassan was in communication with al qaeda with their leaders in yemen, said it was because he had psychological problems. this guy just dismisses terrorism. justifies terrorism. when you compare hamas and hezbollah and terrorist groups for the founding fathers, you are justify -- >> let me ask you this. listen, i want to ask you this. the question is whether what we had here this three-day summit, was a social justice organization. i mean, it was a summit on social justice and how we need to improve the economies in these countries and the health care in these countries and items that have been favorites on the left as opposed to going squarely at the religious ideology that motivates terrorists. >> we're talking there were three pillars to this. and one was attacking with kinetic military might attacking with air power and striking down and killing terrorists. that was discussed among us and our allies at the state department as part...