she said, no, we do do that, good for her. we have become so used to the schmoozy-pants late-night host jimmy fallon that we think that's harsh. she has the right journalistsic tone and we've lost it. >> you're such a great guy, zurawik. enough schmoozing. >>> i guess what i'm trying to figure out is if you said in march the e-mail system began in march of '09, yet we have the same -- >> there was a transsession period. i wasn't that focused on my e-mail account to be clear here. >> let me stop you here. you seemed to be -- to put an e-mail server at your house, it's a complicated thing. >> yeah, but it was already there. >> didn't give up on that. >> that's chuck todd as-led colombo. i thought at first he was deferential, but i thought it was an effective interview. he caught her, especially with the e-mails when she said i wasn't involved in the review, and then we found out earlier she was. he was gentle, but got good stuff. >>> stick around. next on "mediabuzz," hilly...