fox news correspondent geraldo rivera, fox news contributor monica crowley. you interest me because you love donald trump. >> i love donald trump. >> but you can't stand his position on one issue -- >> one issue. >> immigration. >> i'm convinced that given time i can sway him my way. >> you believe that about everybody. >> you as well, but trump is so specific about immigration and he's so draconian about immigration and so good on other issues, he's a guy that can win the election. >> why can't we just have people respect our laws and sovereignty? i'm for immigration, but legal. why is it so dramatic to say, mexico, if you go in that country illegally, they either put you in jail or they deport you. are they draconian? >> the problem is his language. the problem is he's gone to the extreme when it comes to his rhetoric. he's defended a whole race of people. and it's easy enough for him to back off and still have strong borders people not against strong borders. >> i had the governor...