that they're not standing up on principle. so what deals would nancy pelosi or chuck schumer would you do? would be okay with the base of your party? >> well, the problem is they're making bad deals. they're horrible negotiators, the republicans. this last one two weeks ago was a horror show. it is a horror.

>> i'm not paneledering at all of it is another form of fuel. i like as many forms of fuel as we can have. someday we'll need it. and i think it is great. it is also jobs in iowa and jobs therefore for the united states. i'm for the united states. and frankly, it is job for the united states. it happens to be a lot of jobs for iowa. it is very important. >> can you name one thing the government does now that it should not be doing at all? >> well, i think that we're too involved in regulation of the banks. we're making it impossible for people to get loans. i have friends who are wonderful business people. they're not substantial people. and they can't get loans. i'm calling up banks and giving them recommendations. and the regulators are running the banks. you have the biggest bankers on your show and you can speak to them. the biggest there are. and they're not running the bank. and they tell meering with don't even run these banks. dodd frank is a disaster in so many different...