that killed 22. joining us now the man in charge of keeping america safe. the secretary of homeland security, general john kelly. welcome to "fox news sunday." let me ask you about the hot story in washington. these revelations about jared kushner trying to set up some kind of back channel to the kremlin through the soviet and the russian ambassador. your reaction to that. is there anything improper with that? secretary kelly: i don't know if it's true or not. i know it's being reported in the bless. chris: it has been confirmed to me the conversation took place. secretary kelly: i think any channel of communication back or otherwise with a country like russia is a good thing. there are multiple ways to communicate back and forth is a good thing with any country, i think, particularly a country like russia. so it doesn't bother me. you just have to assume, obviously, what you are getting may or may not be true, they may be working you. but that's the whole point. that communication...

studying what would be procedures because we are enjoined and can't do that. chris: you can't study extreme vetting? secretary kelly: we can't study it, but just guessing in implementing. we'll implement ways to determine who an individual is. most of these countries have no passport, they have no police, they have no intelligence. many of the countries in

the united states congress. so that's where those 7 countries came from. in those countries we have very little ability to actually verify, vet the people coming out of those countries. so with the president debit's not a travel ban, it's a travel pause. the president said for 90 days we were going to pause in terms of people from those countries coming into the united states that would give me time to look