and the nation that we all love. >> martha: joined me no counselor to the president kellyanne conway. thanks for being here. always good to see you. how frustrated is the president about what happened with health care? >> we are very disappointed that the senators who made a promise to their constituents to repeal and replace obamacare, in fact in many cases voted to repeal them a place obamacare, have failed to make it on as promised. this would've been the beginning of the end of obamacare and it really would have the millions of americans who don't have health insurance, they were lied to her that they can keep their plan, keep their doctor, they've seen a premium spiral out of control. if the state of alaska premiums have gone up by more than 200%, arizona by more than 120%. the data are there and there are millions of americans who are relying upon this congress to make good on their own premises. over seven or eight years we've been there seven or eight month months. this...

effort to bring due process back for college students. if betsy devos joins me now for this exclusive interview. good to have you with us today. this is a courageous thing to take on because everybody has heard that number that president obama spoke about, one in five college students was assaulted during college. first of all, do you agree, is that number true? >> let me just say that one sexual assault on campus is one too many but one person denied due process is one too many and that's really what this is all about. we really need to get to a point where it's fair for all students and where it is clear with the process is for all students. there've been too many students wronged in a well-intentioned attempt to ensure that this issue is not swept under the rug and not hidden in back rooms of schools any longer. we have no intention of doing that, we have every intention of continuing to make sure that students feel safe and that they all have a fair and equal forum in which to...