ainsley: he is the former ceo of npr author of new book "republican like me. how i left the liberal bubble and learned to love the right." ken stern joins us now. explain this project that you did. >> i was concerned by actually some of the clips that you just saw there the country is pulling apart. we really hate the other side in ways we never did in the past. it's part because we don't know the other side there was actually an incredible poll that the "the washington post" did during the election. they asked trump voters in virginia and a divided state they asked trump voters whether they had close friends or relatives that voted for clinton. asked the same for clinton voters. and over 60% of both didn't have any close friends or relatives on the other side. steve: did that include you? >> it did include me. did i not know any trump voters. not in my family. not any close friends. brian: so, did that bother you, and is that what spurred that project? >> yeah it bothered me...