you are not on the list of priforts. attorney jeff sessions sought release and he joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. >> good to be with you. >> tucker: it does give new numbers to the immigration going on in washington. you were involved in a number of efforts in i think 2006, 2007, 2013 to scuttle attempt at am nest city during that time i remember you saying the washington establishment supports any kind of border enforcement as long as it doesn't work. what did you mean by that? >> that's exactly correct. any time a proposal like a wall or to fix this idea that you claim you are afraid to go home and get to stay in the united states or have problems where we provide subi subsidies to people who come illegally. the more you subsidize it the more you get of something. these kind of failed policies are never going to work. and the american people don't believe in it. and we have been trying to reform it and every time you come up with a reform that works, gets blocked. and so...