larry is the radio host in los angeles and a fixture in l.a., we are glad to have heim here tonight. you have been affected by ms 13 and immigration that is reshaped by it. what is your perspective by this when you hear people say the president is too hard on the gang. >> if anyone thinks that president trump was too harsh ought to read the report by the leadership conference. they did a report in 2007 talking about the 22000 latino gang members taking their orders from the mob. targeting black people for execution irrespective if they are members of gangs. they are doing this. and if you are in the wrong neighborhood you can be targeted just because you are black.