multiple conversations that we've had, it is apparent that deputy attorney general rod rosenstein did intend to at one point take the president of the united states -- tape the president of the united states and that's troubling. eric: senior political reporter and federal politics editor at the center for public integrity is joining us now. what do you think could be accomplished by rosenstein testifying? i mean he will probably say he was joking as we have been told that he was saying like, what do you want me to wire the president? or could he be confronted with what others say is that he was being completely serious? >> if you believe what he's said so far, he's going to say i did not do that at all. these are erroneous reports. put that aside. what we have coming up this week is an opportunity for at least some members of congress some answers to their questions about what he has done, how the mueller investigation that he is