>> bret: here's something that has stuck in my mind. why would president trump agree to put out a transcript that condemns him? i don't think he would. there's something that the president said that's been sticking in my mind since last week. when people first started asking him about this, he said keep on climbing up this latter of the story, because you are going to fall a long way when the truth comes out. there's a little piece of me that's wondering if this is all orchestrated to bring everybody down who is seeking impeachment. that may be giving him too much credit. i don't know. but stuck in my mind when he talked about keep on pursuing the story. when that transcript comes out tomorrow, i think that's going to tell the story of whether the president really did something wrong or everybody was just chasing a ghost. >> bret: mccarthy is still with us. it is not just a phone call. it is what rudy giuliani has