former democrat now running for governor of georgia joins me to explain. vernon, is there any conceivable way she amassed this type of money this quickly smack >> i think we all know that she's probably been intellectually dishonest. you failed to mention one thing was also. supposing she had all that debt, owned i think $50,000 in state income taxes when she decided to run in 2018 but mysteriously she loaned her campaign $50,000. how can you loan your campaign $50,000 when you have an outstanding debt of income taxes? that's interesting. and as a matter fact, did the $50,000 actually go into her bank account? i would like to see a transaction with the $50,000 went into her bank account as she loaned herself. did it come from her bank account or did it come from somebody else? nobody's ever asked that question and i think you and i both know she's been literally the sacred cow. nobody can touch stacey abrams, nobody can say any thing about her. >> jesse: we are saying some