people for the american way and naacp. you may remember the naacp spent $10 million in 2000 running an ad against george w. bush during the presidential campaign alleging that he had acted insufficiently harsh on some bigoted race murderers in texas. i never once saw the "new york times" utter a peep about this. >> bill: when you give money on-to-organizations on your little clap board. >> there that's a white board. that's not a clap board. clap board is what's on the side of a house in new england. this is a white board. white board, bill. >> bill: i'm sorry. that's a major point. you don't have to say the -- the organization doesn't say who gave the money did. your american crossroads group, if i give you money you are not going to tell them i gave you money, right? >> well, american crossroads is a 527, which does report its contributors on a monthly basis. it has affiliated group called crossroads g.p.s. which is a 501 c 4 and does not report -- >> bill: i got it you say that the...