have seen that many people day, after you have seen a state less group of terrorists attack from a place they call afghanistan probably with $300,000 to pull off the attacks. you better do the tough things to make the decisions. >> i agree. i think, for example, maybe it was president obama was naive. he said he would negotiate with iran without preconditions. he said that early on. yet he did make that tough decision. i thought it was a little ill-conceived. i wish he would have known sharia law would have emerged two days after they got gaddafi but i'm glad they got gaddafi. they said it was democracy with the arab spring but i don't think it is yet. >> it is not yet. but at least with the absence of an author tearian in gaddafi. >> wait a minute, but the muslim brother said at the time prepare for war with israel. >> but he didn't have the option to stay with the authoritarian. it's not stable. so the idea you had the chance to stay with him once his people