penalty that penalized them in the tax code. there is things that presidents can do to make sure the laws support the famils there. is discussions we can have. it takes a family is a book i wrote. i talk about a program in chattanooga, tennessee called first things first. they found out that the divorce rate, the out of wet lockk birth rate and number of single mothers was one of the highest in the state of tennessee. they were appalled by that that it was going on in the community. they came together and the nonprofit businesss and the education community and government and formed a group to actually go out and promote marriage and promote policies to reduce divorce and it was a bipartisan and led by leader in the community. like a president can lead a revitalization of marriage. and focus on the issue of divorce without passing laws. the president can convene and start a national discussion and that is rarely used. >> where do the states fit in that with respect to...