first, unleash the lawyers. susan moss. veteran trial lawyer, family law, attorney. raymond duzce shea. pame pamela hayes, long time, no see, friend. veteran lawyer. defense attorney in multiple jurisdictions. susan moss, weigh in. >> if debbie rowe is going to try to get custody, there's some problems here because the law favors rowe, even though those children she doesn't know. thank god it's not joe. there's a supreme court case. in that case, any parent is presumed to be the best guardian for children. and unless you can prove that that parent is unfit, she will win. and that's a big problem, but we'll see what happens. >> you know what, susan moss, you're absolutely right. the law does favor the bio mom. now, she may or may not be the bio mom. she says she is. that remains to be seen. to you, raymond, what about these five doctors that were