it kicks off at 7:30 at the hyatt regency in burlingame. the bad guys are out there looking for ways to get your data and your money. they are called hackers, but did you know there is more than one kind of hacker. the bay area is full of the good times. you should be happy they are out there. >> a red hat. maybe what jason spence likes to wear, but a white hat is what he likes to call himself. >> i can call myself a white hat hacker. >> a white hat hacker being an expert that searches out weaknesses in websites, networks and software not with the intent to exploit them, but get them fixed. >> i do it because it makes the world a better place. >> spence is far from the only one of his kind in the bay area. >> wherever there engineers, you will find white hat hackers. >> the san francisco native is