yours. >> dickerson: we're back with mick mulvaney the director of white house office of management and budget. mr. director, i want to start with the individual mandate. something the president wants, it's in the bill now, part in the senate just make the numbers add up. if it was taken out would the president be okay with maybe cutting that corporate rate to 22% all the way down to 20 to make up that money that they need in the senate? >> no. i don't think so. i don't think anybody doubts where the president is on repeal or replace. the white house would love to see obamacare taken apart all at once, bit by bit. however we can do it. that being said, there's a couple of things that the president has been very clear on from the very beginning. number one, middle class ordinary americans working folks have to pay less and has to be simpler. number two, that corporate tax rate has to be as low as possible. virtually wanted it at 15%. we agreed with house senate leadership to go to 20%...