clearly better money management. >> brennan: we turn to larry kudlow director of the national economic council is the top economic advisor. larry, good to to have you on the show. >> wonderful margaret, thank you. is the threat of tariffs still on the table? >> we've made a lot of progress. perhaps even more progress than we might have thought when we went to beijing a couple of weeks ago. the communique makes that very clear that we're going to stashly reduce the u.s. trade gap. here is the deal. we want china to open up markets, lower tariffs, lower barriers, give us a chance. we also want china however to change their behavior with respect to technology transfers and also the theft of intellectual property rights. are we going to get everything? i don't know. but i will say this. we're making terrific progress and i think the meetings here in washington were very positive. and the president himself has become very optimistic and supportive. >> did he take that threat of $150...