>> rose: what you reflect is what martin indyk without worked with secretary kerry said s the problem leer in the end is palestinians don't trust the israelis. and the israelis don't trust the palestinians. in the end that's the problem. how do you get beyond that? how do you create trust? >> mr. charles, do you think that the key for the solution is trust? we are actually enemies. they are the occupiers. we are enemies. the solution doesn't start with trust. as i said, the solution starts with the international community's volumician to say to the israeli occupation stop. enough is enough. they ought to compel israel to withdraw. so how could i trust my enemy? and we had a number of negotiations, and the negotiations were failing. >> rose: do you believe israel acts at the behest of the united states? >> the capacity of the