is there -- and with this sort of a solomon's choice here, that you don't want to fire him because he has made a great contribution to nbc news, and all the reasons but because he is a well-liked guy because he has a journalistic skills? and so you look for a way. or is it a wiser way if you think this is unacceptable just simply cut can cord? >> yes. i think all of the above and i think the executives at nbc were clearly caught by surprise at how quickly this developed and weren't sure of the right path. it is interesting to return to part of what bill was talking about, the fact that williams was on "the daily show" or, no jon stewart did a segment about him brian williams on monday and again failed it talk about how lying has blurred between information and entertainment, and brian seems to have tripped over it, it is weird, you know