million. it's happening in sydney, australia. it's happening in auckland, new zealand. i think one of the things that we hope to do with the documentary is just to have a conversation about these things and to start the process of looking at potential solutions. >> okay. well, it's certainly very interesting. you managed to weave a lot into your short documentary. thank you both for being here with us today. michelle joyce and steve fife. >> thank you. >>> i'm thuy vu. thanks so much for watching. for all of kqed news coverage go to kqednews.org.