have a role to play, and i certainly put my side in part ot that. >> woodruff: we've been taking attention to something hillary clinton said in describing donald trump's followers. she calls them "a basket of deplorables." is there something to what she said, or is she completely off base? >> well, i think it's probably both. there are definitely... there is definitely an element of donald trump support's that has its basis in racism and xenophobia, but a lot of these folks are hard-working people who areo struggling in really important ways, and i think folks can be led by political lead centers one direction or another. they can be pushed or pulled. when hillary clinton says something like, that it strikesh me that she's pushing people away from what she wants them to get out of her message, and if you think as i do that donald trump doesn't necessarily have a good message either, that'sha maybe not the best approach to politics. it's not how you win these folks over.r. and if...