w. bush was a governor. andrew johnson was governor of tennessee. jimmy carter was governor of georgia. >> by the same token, george washington was a very successful farmer. you know, which was a big business back in those days. so there's a -- >> good for you. he was a farmer, and f that point, harry truman, you know, he was a enhaberdasher. there were some who were very successful that were never senators or governors, never had an elected position like that exactly. abraham lincoln wasn't a governor, was never ase tor. there are some very impressive models that way. but business leaders have done well. michaebloomberg, of course, is mayor, which is the next toughest job after president is being mayor of new york city. d he certain very well and there are many business leaders who went into public service who were sucssful business leaders but even more renowned for their legacies in public service, like avrilan harr who ran the union pacific railroad and chester boelz, a great...