summons me. i want to philippe and i am envious of those of you that have it. tavis: unless he said something lake, he has served very -- could very firm. -- he has stood firm. stood firm in his disbelief of a higher being. those agnostic and atheist until they get in a situation where they have to call upon something more divine and they discovered god. >> i write about that. a guy that had been renouncing the and at the end, he wants his last rites said. there are people toward the end. hi dad would say -- he was a