and richard mcalister ran the city for a long time. he's gone now or going to be gone, retiring, anan so whwh kind of void does that leave and how do you fill that and what steps have you taken already to make sure that there's a competent person in there to do what dick did? >> mayay brown: sure, mr. gagas is very knowledgeable. >> ron: we had him on the show too. >> mayor brown: yeah, he has either a photographic memory or visual memory. some of the things he pullsup with differere questions i haveve for him, he's been very invaluable. as was dick in his departure. some folks might have thought, there was concern there, the two top positions in cedar falls, might have concerns with that void, but i looked at it differently as really an opportunity for two new leaders to come in without, you know, losing a lot of that historical information that ron has to further cedar falls the way i wanted to have it furthered bo both of ous talked about public safety -- of us talked about public...