information that was received by certain senate staffers on the democratic side, he called senator feinstein and me and came to us and said here is what happened. the fact is we now know he did not have all the facts. once he got the facts he did apologize. he was wrong and senator feinstein was right. >> when you hear that the c.i.a. is spying on senate computers? >> these are computers that were on their premises but they were being dedicated to senate staff. and i will tell you this is very, very serious. if i thought john brennan knew about this, then it would be certainly we would be calling for his resignation. but the oig made azd÷# specific finding that he did not. but i will tell you the five staffers that did this, if they worked for me they would be gone now but the accountability board has been convened and they will be looking into this and they

involved they were given the challenge of putting together a detention and interrogation program. they went to the department of justice and said what can we do? what legally can we do? they were given legal opinions as to what they could do and in their opinion they did not violate that. there willrxu be allegations of going above and beyond. >> but your minority report will show evidence that some of the techniques or torture, did yield useful intelligence? >> absolutely. and the term torture is being used by the critics of the program. i think that term is going to be disputed -- >> is water boarding it were tour? >> water boarding is one of the specific issues investigated by the department of justice from the standpoint of does it comply with the geneva convention and they made a determination that it is authorized that it is not torture. >> let me ask you about the c.i.a. director mr. brennan.