that romney's comment, as short as it was, has rei go nated a conversation in this country about jobs, the kind of jobs we want, the kind of incomes that we think people should need. i think it's raised issues about unions. i think it's much more than just a political sentence. it's taken on sorts of other meanings i think will change the debate and has already begun as we go into the new year. >> what's interesting, andrea, the president won. no doubt about it. he won handily. if you look at one night, one big event that i think a lot of us thought might be the defining moment, it was the first debate in denver where the president of the united states decided to just kind of not show up. >> it was profoundly important at the time and i think continues to be because it showed both the overconfidence and the lack of engagement and it was particular and personal to barack obama. but if you look at the polling data and i went to briefings, as you did as well, we have people who do the...