referenced in today's lexi con did. >> don young is a leader and chairman in the republican party congress and uses a term like wetback. you said the magic words, what was he thinking? the problem is there's no sensitivity towards gays and lesbians and no sensitivity towards hispanics in the republican party itself. obviously there's some republicans who do show it shows a perfect example. but as long as they get high ranking people like that, visible people making statements like that, why if you were hispanic even think about voting republican? >> what comes first, the party problem or individual problem of people like carson and young? is it the chicken and egg, which came first? >> i think the party has to work hard to fix its image and outreach. it has to be a substantive outreach and that is clearly more inclusive. governor rendell has it right. we got killed in 2012 because of our inability to reach hispanics