kind of public/private partnership involved with federal money to turn these numbers around? >> i think it has got to start there, but also long-term we have to level the playing field in terms of corporations. a lot of reasons you see the outsourcing of manufacturing jobs, we allow corporations to give tax breaks to outsource those jobs so need to incentivizze them to hire american workers here. >> the democrats had a proposal on the table, reward companies for bringing jobs back, and they voted it down. >> i was just going to say that and the president had that too. what they wanted to do was an insourcing credit. essentially if you instead of outsourcing manufacturing jobs to india or mexico or to somewhere else, if you do it with americans who want to work looking for jobs, then we would give you a tax credit. republicans don't want to do that. >> both of you are great. great to have you with us. always excellent insight. joy reid, james peterson. the crowd here at the...