so i found this place and i said i'm going to go in and produce a product line. so i had no idea that i was going to end up brick and mor r mortar. so now i have a skin clinic instead of a product line. >> i moved to harlem last year and six days later, i saw this beautiful corner, i'm like, we need to make coffee shop here. >> i sat down with jack at square client manny pena's cafe to talk some more about small business and what he's learned from the entrepreneurs he's met during his tour. you are in the heart of innovation, right? i mean you are very much the heart of innovation yourself. you started to -- two of these companies that have changed the way people do things. do you feel that same kind of excitement, that same innovation as you're going around the country talking to small business owners? >> absolutely. i mean there's an electricity in the air and it's one of the reasons we chose harlem for this event. is because you can feel it. innovation is, you know, one of those...