smith, along with representative bruce antone from orlando, they're working to do just that. >> now, let me ask you, lisa, i want to show you a graph that really caught my eye. it shows justifiable homicides after stand your ground. here are the murders in florida from 2000 to 2005. in april of 2005, stand your ground was signed into law. check out the spike in homicides after stand your ground became law, lisa. tell me what the graph shows you. >> yes. well, it shows the huge increase in justifiable homicides. translation, people shooting and killing other people and getting away with it, without any legal accountability. and i have a chapter about this in my book. it's not just florida. you see that pattern repeated in all the stand your ground states. and you don't see it in the nonstand your ground states where the numbers stay roughly flat. so we are talking about a real body count here. >> so let me stop you right