africana study at she lie university. vivian lotata, and josh barrow, correspondent for "the new york times." joan, james, josh with are all msnbc contributors as well. i just love saying that. my "j" crew. so i want to start with the irs hearings. joan, start with you. it was pretty clear this week and this morning on some of the sunday talk shows that they are not going to let this go. they are going to go after miss lerner pretty hard. it is kind of a double. now that they've referred the case to the department of justice, they can actually plame it on eric hold per. >> right. there is an investigation. i found is to so striking that the other day they shut out the media, shut out the public. dave camp has taken to acting like darrel issa. he shut down congressman levin. there is this attempt not only to create -- or inflate this scandal but also to shut down