of former soviet premier nikia krushchev. thank you for joining us on the program. >> thank you. >> one thing i have found fascinating is the role of the russian media in terms of being a propaganda arm for vladimir putin and really sort of going after the folks in eastern ukraine with the message of there are protests, there's a nazi-backed government that the u.s. is behind that is trying to ruin the specific cities, is trying to sort of bring the ukrainian language, all sorts of propaganda. talk to us about the role the russian media is playing and wing the hearts and minds of those folks in the eastern part of ukraine who speak russian, who have been very receptive to those folks who do not have an insignia on their uniforms. >> russians have been very in tune to propaganda. in fact, the state always used propaganda for its ideological purposes. vladimir putin is such a great student of the soviet system that today it really is playing